Frontier Former Editor

April 17, 2007

What fun we have in the southwestern part of the commonwealth

Filed under: crime, guns, old college days, Virginia Tech — Frontier Former Editor @ 2:39 am

In case you haven’t heard today, Virginia took back a record from the likes of the Columbine killers and Charles Whitman – we now are the worst mass killing on a school campus in American history.

 While several things are still understandably fuzzy, one interesting point is – at the admission of administrators – why didn’t Virginia Tech campus officials institute an existing e-mail and cell phone warning system when two dead bodies were found in an on-campus dorm and no shooter had yet been identified?

 I just finished having this argument with a family member who pointed out that one had to be at the scene to understand the thought processes of those on the scene.  To a point, that’s true. But there’s always the point that a university had two dead people on campus and no way of knowing whether or not the perp was still on campus or what his/her intentions were beyond that.

 There’s no telling if that course of action would have prevented further loss of life – assuming that the same person committed all the murders – but it sure would have added another variable to the equation for the killer or killers.

 Assuming that two dead people in a campus dorm was a domestic issue? I’m sorry, but that’s asinine under any circumstances.

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13 Comments »

  1. this is something that will repeat itself until we figure a few things out…i’m so tired.

    Comment by anna — April 17, 2007 @ 7:27 am

  2. Bonjour Senor FFE

    We all wish to convey our heartfelt sorrow & sympathy for the Victims and their grieving families

    Your friend Monsieur Metro has (as is his custom) some interesting observations in his place

    I can well understand the kindly Anna’s weariness

    … but I do not think that this needs much working out

    – if the USA insists on having so many guns around, there will be more of these mass-murders

    What is needed is for a change of heart & attitude – the US Constitution needs to be changed :

    1. to remove the universal right to bear arms (and by implication to kill …. and as we now see, to be killed)

    and

    2. to remove & destroy the guns which are so widely available in the USA (& increasingly, in Gross Britannien)

    It has been said that in America, Christianity is 3,000 miles long, 2,000 miles wide and 1 inch deep

    Isn’t it about time that Mr Bush & the whole American political system repented of their wickedness in conniving at a Constitution that generates such levels of murder as a daily occurrence

    Your obedient servant etc

    G Eagle

    Comment by G Eagle Esq — April 17, 2007 @ 8:42 am

  3. if not guns, then knives, if not knives, then massive poisoning…i’m not a fan of weaponry. we can do away with all the weaponry that drowns us…but i think its essential to find what drives us to use this weaponry in the first place. if that gunman had not had access to a gun, he would have found another way to hurt people before taking his own life. we have to find out, and thus prevent the reasons why people are so isolated and so inwardly destroyed they no longer value life. we have to take better care of those around us now, and those we are bringing into this world.

    Comment by anna — April 17, 2007 @ 10:30 am

  4. I thought of you when I heard the news. My most sincere condolences to all who were harmed and affected. I agree with Anna’s last comment.

    Comment by Kindness — April 17, 2007 @ 9:02 pm

  5. It’s very hard to kill 33 people in one day by using a knife.

    Comment by raincoaster — April 18, 2007 @ 2:29 pm

  6. I’ve posted and commented enough about this.

    Just wanted to express sympathy.

    Comment by Metro — April 18, 2007 @ 4:43 pm

  7. it is very hard to kill 33 people in one day using a knife. again, i’m not a fan of weaponry. but whether it be guns (more effiecient than knives) or flying planes into buildings (more efficient than guns) we need to figure out why people are killing one another. i suspect a person enraged enough to kill 33 people would have gotten his hands on a gun legally or illegally. making things scarce or illegal does not change someone’s desire to use those items.

    Comment by anna — April 18, 2007 @ 8:38 pm

  8. anna, I’ve researched it; these rage killings are fundamentally different from terrorist attacks, and they are almost always perpetrated by people with no criminal records, who shun criminality. They are the last people on Earth to buy a weapon on the black market.

    Making things illegal would not change these people’s wish to slaughter, but it would effectively eliminate their opportunity to do so. The mafia will still get their hands on guns, but the mafia are not the ones that do this; the upstanding citizens are.

    Comment by raincoaster — April 19, 2007 @ 3:29 am

  9. okay, i fold. take away the guns then. i’m off to try and figure out a better way to relate to the people around me, make my part of this universe a less isoalted place, connect with people more often, pay attention to the lonely, etc. g’night.

    Comment by anna — April 19, 2007 @ 4:51 am

  10. okay, and i forgot to add, i apparently didn’t make it clear when i wrote (twice, and now three times) i’m not a fan of weaponry…that….i…am…not…a…fan…of…weaponry…i don’t even own steak knives…and that i was wanting to go deeper than…ban guns…or limit guns…or even….look at guns….just wanted to go deeper at why a person was so isolated…okay….wow…my girlfriend is looking at me with that look…gotta go. over and out. for. the. last.time.on.this.subject.thank.god.and.goddess…whew! g’dnight everyone!

    Comment by anna — April 19, 2007 @ 4:57 am

  11. The NRA will not stop until every man, woman and child is armed and evrything is ‘even steven’.

    I hear that you are only allowed to buy one gun per month in Virginia.

    I suppose that someday there will be an undercover Mod Squad type Air Marshall in every classroom in America..just in case…

    I guess they’ll need more guns manufactured to supply them…Hey somebody phone Charlton Heston and tell him the great news!

    Comment by homo escapeons — April 21, 2007 @ 8:11 pm

  12. Either everybody has guns or nobody has guns. There are only what, 75 million HANDGUNS in the US so do the math.
    Aren’t crime rates lower in States that alow concealed weapons and what about that county that made owning a gun mandatory!

    It’s too late ba-by,
    now it’s too late
    Though we really tried to make it.
    Something inside has died…

    Comment by homo escapeons — May 10, 2007 @ 5:26 am

  13. there is no hope !

    Comment by Evoreal Team — June 3, 2007 @ 3:44 pm


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